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The Transitus Mariae is Heretic

September 16, 2014

More on assumption and coronation of Mary…..

Care to read please…

 

Transitus Mariae is Heretic

 

After reading, I wonder why still the Catholics believe in such heretic story as claimed by their own sources.  I do not know the author whether he is non-catholic or what, but as far as their own history is concern the  Assumption of Mary that came from Transitus Mariae is intentionally untrue.

Much more heretic Biblically speaking.

It is up to you to believe.

 

 

 

 

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Assumption and coronation of Mary is not Biblical hence a Fallacy

September 15, 2014

Assumption and coronation of Mary is not Biblical hence a Fallacy

Roman Catholic Church is known for numerous false doctrines: rosary, baptism of the infants, purgatory, idol’s worship, mass, Eucharist, December 25, All Saints and All Souls Day, and many others that the Bible did not agree with.

 

Another dogma that the Bible did not consider is the Assumption and Coronation of Blessed Virgin Mary.   Let the Scriptures tell us the reason.

 

NO MAN ASCENDED UP TO HEAVEN

 

John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

 

Dictionary defines assumption as the taking up of a person into heaven while ascension is the act of rising or ascending; the act of moving to a higher or more powerful position. Catholics church said by the power of God Mary’s assumption took place, on the other hand, it is by Christ’s power he ascended to heaven. Although ascension is different from assumption in terms of “whose will it is” as they implied, it is still clear that both terms directed into one place which is going up to heaven where the Almighty God is dwelt. And no man went to heaven, the Son of God does.

 

GOD’S PROMISE IN HIS RETURN

Remember the promise of our Lord Jesus Christ which is written in the Book of John,

 

Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

 

Joh 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

 

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

 

I believed that Mary died in Christ, and those who died in Christ will rise first.

 

1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

 

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

 

1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

 

A query about the assumption of Mary was asked to Bro. Eli in Bible Exposition Totoo bang si Birheng Maria ay iniakyat sa langit?”. 

 

 

THROWBACK

 

Few years back I made comments/inquiries regarding the assumption and coronation of Mary in Atty. Marwil Llasos blog. I posted that since the event of assumption and coronation of Mary is not written in the Bible – it is not real, it is a mere addition and a false doctrine. And believing to false doctrine is detrimental to salvation.

 

Since Catholics believe on that dogma, I asked Atty. Marwil Llasos, a Catholic defender, for verses that will qualify his belief, because my belief is, all things needed for salvation is written in the Bible, and to be Biblically true, it must be written.

 

Atty. Llasos did not give verses to support his claims instead he gave me counter-argument – “Where in the Bible can we read that everything is in the Bible?”, wherein according to him my premise is invalid.

 

Lest Atty. Llasos forgot that we are verifying here the truthfulness of RCC dogma and not everything or something else. And it wise to think that to be Biblically true, a doctrine must be written or can be read in the Bible itself and not from any self-claimed letter from apostles or self-proclaimed saints by Catholics church.

 

According to catholicm.about.com, Assumption of Mary was the bodily taking up of the Virgin Mary into Heaven at the end of her earthly life. It is also called the falling asleep of Mary.

 

Bodily taking up or entering body into heaven (Wikipedia)- Is it possible that body of flesh and flood can enter heaven? Let’s read:

 

1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

 

Just to sufficed the assumption belief, Atty. Llasos said that I did not understand or I know not the Catholic doctrine because the body mentioned in that dogma is a glorified body like of our Lord after his resurrection. Let hear some words from marypages.com, a catholic-page,

 

“Scripture does not give an account of Mary’s Assumption into heaven. Nevertheless, Revelation 12 speaks of a woman who is caught up in the battle between good and evil. Belief that Mary, without dying or shortly after death, has been taken up into Heaven with her body and her soul has been part of the teaching of the Catholic Church since the earliest centuries of Christianity. That early Christian believed in Mary’s Assumption is proven in the lack of her relics, empty tombs, the existence of Transitus Mariae stories, and quotes from early Christians.

 

Finally when she was 59 years old, Mary died A.D. 48. She had enough time to say goodbye to all the apostles before she died. The grieving apostles took her body to a tomb near the one that Jesus was laid in. They covered her with a white shroud and laid her to rest in the tomb. But Mary’s body didn’t stay there. Jesus came to her and took her body and soul into heaven to be with Him.”

 

The bibleprobe.com/transitusmariae.htm also posted this:

 

“The word Assumption comes from the Latin verb assumere, meaning “to take to oneself.” Our Lord, Jesus Christ took Mary home to himself where he is.

In the light of a long history of Christian belief since patristic times, in 1950, Pope Pius XII defined Mary’s Assumption into Heaven as a dogma of Roman Catholicism:

“the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heaven.”

 

(1)Whatever body (material or glorious) as Atty. Llasos claimed, the fact remains that  Scripture does not give an account of Mary’s Assumption into heaven – no wonder why Atty. Llasos is having hard time to give verses when asked because the assumption is no-where to be found in the Bible.  And yet, it is only 1950 when such belief was declared as dogma of the church.

(2) Due to lack of relics, empty tomb, existence of Transitus Mariae and quotes from early Christians – with these reason why Catholics believed such dogma is like an empty can because true Christians will not tell lies and make story that is not true.

 

Mat 19:18  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

 

(3) “Jesus came to her and took her body and soul into heaven to be with Him” and Our Lord, Jesus Christ took Mary home to himself where he is”, are both direct contradiction of the Lord’s words in John 14:1-3.

Joh 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

Joh 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

Joh 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

When will the Lord Jesus Christ coming and the dead in Christ will raise first?

This Q & A in a Bible Exposition of Bro. Eli Soriano will give you discernment about this – the question raised is May nakarating na bang tao sa langit?”

 

If the legal adviser, Atty. Llasos still insist that such dogma is Biblical, it is up to him.  He has all the right to believe and defend his (false) belief, on the other hand, we are here to defend the truth and expose lies for the sake of others.

And by the way, I am a proud member of Members Church of God International, or locally knows as Ang Dating Daan.  And the messenger sent by God in this dispensation that I am talking about in your blog Atty. Llasos is Bro. Eli Soriano.

 

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A call for debate by Lackey: Speak Greek/ Hebrew Language Or You are Nothing? Sounds familiar.

September 10, 2014

I would like to post my comment on splendors blog dated 8/26/2014:

1. First is the challenge of Bro. Duane to Eli Soriano or Any member of ADD who are willing to appear in a neutral place for a gentleman Debate.

 

It is all said. Sensible indeed! By reading the link below (or this blog), for wise readers, we understand why Duane’s demand is HOPELESS.

 

http://kotawinters.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/bro-eli-pope-francis-and-the-squid-tactics-of-roman-catholic-lackeys/

 

But hey, I have an idea for Mr. Duane if he is sincere to open the eyes of people. Since Mr. Duane is hastily requesting a gentleman debate with Bro. Eli but cannot get an authority from his pope or higher superior:

 

WHY NOT MAKE VIDEO OR BLOG MR. DUANE?

 

Mr. Duane, if you really wanted to prove your brothers and sisters in faith and in the world that you are good in Hebrew and in Greek and that of recommendation of Bro. Eli is wrong, why not make a video or a blog proving yourself and of Bro. Eli is wrong in saying that the best English translation (truthful to original language) of the Bible is New Living Testament and Modern King James Version? Does not knowing the truth (if it’s a real truth) gave you an obligation to inform everyone that you think is misled by Bro. Eli since he made such recommendation? Why not tell us what version is the best English translation and truthful? And tell us why do you say so?

 

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

 

I am hoping that your listeners and/or readers will understand what you are talking about and will sure get piece of good advice for their soul’s salvation. Peace!

 

2. Second is the response of Bro. Duane to Eli Soriano against the statement of Pope Francis.

 

I though Mr. Duane will wronged Bro. Eli, but what he did is he backed-up Bro. Eli in refuting pope’s pronouncement “Jesus is a man” when Duane show us this “Person of Jesus, who is true man and true God.”
Links:http://www.apologete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Jesus-is-GOD-and-Man12.jpg

 

Duane analyzed the video to prove his point – to prove his pope’s point – that Jesus is a man, not a spirit. In the video:

 

Pope’ said: He is the intercessor, the One who prays, pray to God with us and before us. Jesus has saved us, He gave us this great prayer, His sacrifices, His life to save us, to justify us: we are righteous through Him. Now he’s gone, but He still prays. Some ask, Is Jesus a spirit? Jesus is not a spirit! Jesus is a person, a man, with flesh like ours, but full of glory. Jesus has the wounds on His hands, feet, sides, and when He prays to the Father He shows the price of justification, praying for us, as if to say: Father, let this not be lost! (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlEsbkHn_Y)

 

Thank you Duane for showing this video to us, so loud and clear! Your pope is indeed telling that Jesus is a man, with flesh like ours. Jesus is a man even he is gone. His homily is about the humanity of Jesus even he is gone. NO WONDER, Bro. Eli will not keep quiet on this kind of pronouncement. It contradicts the Bible! Poor Duane, he just gave Bro. Eli’s blog a lift instead of refuting it.

 

Duane wrote: When Pope Francis was saying “Jesus is not a spirit”, he is actually being faithful to the teaching of the bible.

 

Oh my, this man is lost! The pronouncement is unbiblical and yet still faithful to the teaching of the Bible? Mr. Duane, you are grossly blinded!

 

Duane wrote: If you believe that Jesus is a spirit, you are actually saying that Jesus does not have a flesh. BUT HE DOES. And if you go back and read what the Pope was saying in his homily, you will find out that he was actually talking about the essential value of the flesh of Jesus for our redemption. Jesus came in this world in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16).

 

Now you are assuming wrongfully Mr. Duane. Your thinking is not the same as ours. We believe that Jesus is a spirit and not a man. He manifested in flesh. And as of this moment he is not in flesh anymore as your pope’s homily and your own conclusion.

 

Duane wrote: Remember that when Jesus roused from the dead he was not a spirit or a ghost he had an actual body.

 

The Pope said, Jesus is a person, a man, withflesh (body) like ours but full of glory. Isn’t this what glorious body actually mean?

 

So to Mr. Duane, an actual body = glorious body = flesh = man = not a spirit. How could be it glorious if you still have arthritis and all sort of illnesses since you are still in flesh (can feel pain/sorrows/etc)? It absurd and it is not glorious either.

 

Duane wrote: This interpretation is far from relevant in the topic if we use much clearer translations from Biblegateway.com 16 So then, from this point on we won’t recognize people by human standards. Even though we used to know Christ by human standards, that isn’t how we know him now. (CEB) 16 So from now on, we do not look at anyone from a worldly viewpoint. Even if we once regarded the Messiah from a worldly viewpoint, we do so no longer.(CJB) 16 From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh.Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. (ESV) Are you still shock? The Pope maybe just too deep for some non-Catholics, so that he is misunderstood.

 

DEEP? Is that deep already? You just use other translation and for you is it deep? Your pope homily is not deep nor shallow, it is MISLEADING! And he misunderstood the Bible and the followers as well.

 

Duane wrote: Or some non-Catholics are too shallow that they cannot understand a basic Catholic homily.

 

WE understand so much that is why we LEAVE your church. It is false.

 

Duane wrote: Just an afterthought, have you seen the faces of those who were watching the video, none of them appeared to be shock at all. It was basic catholic catechism. They understood exactly that there was nothing new in what the Pope was saying.

 

Actually Duane, they are not watching the video, they were present at that homily, you blind! Yes they understood exactly that there was nothing new, cause from the very beginning of your church you propagated false doctrines, whatever comes now is also false. That is basic logic.

 

Luk_6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

 

Let the Pope speak for himself, nice try Duane.

 

3. Third is the response of Bro. Duane to attacks of Eli Soriano against the Catholic Church.

 

Ahahahha..LOL! Duane, what are you doing? Who understand you by writing all of this stuff? You are speaking in the AIR man!

 

1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

 

Try to refute Bro. Eli by posting Hebrew words? WHY NOT EXPLAIN so everybody will understand? But if you cannot refute by explaining your point in common language, the Bible has something to say to you, Mr. Duane:

 

1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

 

Whatever translations you use, your Church is idolaters! You cannot change the fact that you worship graven images.

 

You know, the more you boast yourself as superb in Hebrew language the more you look fool to wise readers.

 

If I were you, I will follow the Bible’s advice. KEEP SILENT!

 

Note: This post is originally posted as comment to this blog.

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The Catholic priest is trembling too!

September 10, 2014

The other person that trembling so much in pain and shame as far as the post is concerned dated August 14, 2014 in their ‘splendor blog’ claiming that it was a response to Sis. Jane Abao’s “Bro. Eli, Pope Francis and the Squid Tactics of Roman Catholic Lackeys” is none other than the priest, Mr. Abe A.

 

He is trembling so much and no other way to counter Bro. Eli’s arguments regarding pope’s pronouncement but to post his old-style, malicious and un-respectful style of blogging against the person of Bro. Eli and now Sis Jane Abao. How poor this priest is, scarce in wisdom but full of sarcasm!

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli is hiding because of the rape case —-

 

I said: If Bro. Eli is hiding, why people see him worldwide in 1000+ satellites, heard him in television and radio, watch him in live-streaming in internet? A simple logic yet the poor priest cannot comprehend. And for your information priest abe, as if you did not know the reason why Bro. Eli went abroad, he was sent by God to preach the true gospel worldwide. It seems you really love to talk about the rape case fabricated by INC, have not you Mr. Priest? And in your dirty mind, Bro. Eli is guilty already. For your information, the Bible said ‘the wicked shall not understand…’ and so why Bro. Eli understands the Bible? If you do not believe about that prophecy it is your lost not ours.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli’s followers are blind—-

 

I said: I am myself is spiritually blind when I was in the Catholic Church, but when I heard the preaching of Bro. Eli, I knew it is God who preaches. To cut the story short, I was blind before but now I can see. Many members of MCGI were catholic before: drunkard, killers, drug-addict, gossiper, womanizer, money-lover, self-centered, idolaters, etc. – but now after hearing Bro. Eli’s preaching – they are godly and faithfully serving the true God of the Bible.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that sis Jane Abao is shallow –

 

I said: That’s why you joined forces to malign Sis Jane because of her shallowness? Who will believe you priest? If there is one stupid and all malicious names you had called to Sis Jane and Bro. Eli, it was you splendor1618 aka Abe. A, you are stupid because you listen to devil, only devil have the guts to do the things you have done in your site, it’s the devil who hate people doing good and it’s the devil that create false doctrines, he is a LIAR. And you are following the likes of the devil. Am I wrong in thinking you are son of him? You still have time to think priest.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli claimed he is a great debater —

 

I said: If you have evidence that Bro. Eli claimed that he is a great debater, show It! If you cannot – you are indeed a great liar spendor1618, you put your lies to Bro. Eli’s mouth, shame on you.

 

Bro. Eli, is indeed a great debater but he never claims he is. He knows where to stand. The footages of his debate with other sects and claimed-Christian denominations are proof that none can beat him Biblically speaking. Bro. Eli has the guts, the style, the knowledge and wisdom to be a great debater of this time. Just get a permit to your pope poor-priest and bring your balls in the debate, if you have balls to carry.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli can answer all questions thrown at him —

 

I said: I do believe Bro. Eli said these lines instead, that he can answer all the questions thrown at him regarding religion and salvation the Bible have an answers. Anyway all questions thrown by the visitors in Bible Exposition as far as I know were all answered by Bro. Eli, even those not related to religion and salvation, and most of the visitors who asked questions were catholics. They are asking because the priest cannot respond Biblically. They are seeking for the best advice – advice from the Bible – word of God.

 

The accusation of this priest against Bro. Eli is baseless and hopeless. This priest is righteous in his own understanding. This priest is too jealous of something that wicked cannot have. This priest cannot accept the fact that the preaching of Bro. Eli is spreading worldwide and MCGI is growing everyday.

 

Wake-up Mr. Abe for your soul’s sake!

 

 

“Obey your conscience. That is your guide to what is right and what is wrong.”

 

Hopeless to defend the pope by priest Abe in his pronouncement, the priest had to coat the claim that the Italian journalist has no proof or evidence (video or recorder) that testified the truthfulness of the said pronouncement.

From the blog:
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The Pope’s letter to Scalfari that Vatican calls “non-believer,” said –
I now wish to address the three questions from your article of 7 August. I believe that in the first two questions, what interests you is to understand the attitude of the Church towards those who do not share faith in Jesus. Above all, you ask if the God of Christians forgives those who do not believe and who do not seek faith. Given the premise, and this is fundamental, that the mercy of God is limitless for those who turn to him with a sincere and contrite heart, the issue for the unbeliever lies in obeying his or her conscience. There is sin, even for those who have no faith, when conscience is not followed. Listening to and obeying conscience means deciding in the face of what is understood to be good or evil. It is on the basis of this choice that the goodness or evil of our actions is determined. http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/letters/2013/documents/papa-francesco_20130911_eugenio-scalfari.html
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The priest cannot escape on this statements, he is just misleading the readers by calling Bro. Eli and Sis Jane of all sort of names that pointed on him. But the truth is, the pope really said that. And he opened the rape case again, he really like rape cases didn’t he?

 

Everyone has the right for his own opinion, why not Bro. Eli on his Biblical opinion. Do not forget your pope is a public figure, a leader – a spiritual leader for many Catholics. What an escape when you said that it is useless for the pope to explain using the Bible if he speaking to non-believer? Are you saying that quoting the Bible is useless if you speak to non-believers? Is the Bible made only to believers? Are not the ultimate goodness and pure conscious are found in the Bible, where GOD’s words are written? Or your pope cannot rely on the Bible for he do not know how to engage if he speaks to non-believers?

 

You know Mr. Splendor, it is UNETHICAL to anyone to call a man an idiot if he know nothing about him. It is UNETHICAL and UN-BIBLICAL to anyone to give high regard to a fool but is not and vise versa. And if you do not want to be contested by anyone, do not speak something that is contestable. In the beginning of your blog you are implying that Scalfari is a liar being an atheist and later on you are telling he is an intellectual heavyweight like your pope. Is this mean, a liar is also an intellectual heavyweight? Just asking.

 

Hey Priest, Bro. Eli need not to pretend he is knowledgeable –cause his knowledge is illuminating in every corner of this earth. He need not to write Scalfari for an interview or whatsoever in your mind because he is so busy preaching worldwide. If Scalfari need to know about Bro. Eli, about religion and faith, he can just turn on his media devices and presto he can hear Bro. Eli, he can ask questions about faith, religion, etc. Whatever Scalfari’s doubt, no-doubt that it will be answered by Bro.Eli. And I know you know that as well, you are just denying the fact.

 

In a world of lies, truth are not welcome, they maybe expose sooner, and that will be the end of line. This priest unwanted the truth to be heard, cause he is living in the world of lies where he is one of the propagator. The Biblical opinion of Bro. Eli is very unwelcome to these people who do not want to see anymore. Sorry Mr, Priest, you cannot stop Bro. Eli in doing so, because he is after the soul of many people blinded for so long, for his mission is to open their eyes.

 

The priest said, there is no fallacy in their doctrines —- maybe in their dream. Well if we talk about the fallacy of Roman Catholic Church, they were numerous. Since this priest claimed that RCC developed its education, science, arts, music and literature that make them champion in logical reasoning, analytic studies and deductive analysis – no doubt why their doctrine is not of God but of men. Cause the truth where  logical thinking and reasoning must be based shall comes from the east. The sun shines in the east and not in the west. Christians comes from east not in Rome.

 

“He believes in God but not in the Catholic god.”

 

Whether it is Catholic God or Catholic god, the pope believes not.
I do not know why the priest is so damned to understand this. Why in the world Pope Francis said that if there is no comparison at all. Come on Mr. Priest, your pope is comparing two things here, the God and the Catholic God. Whether your creed started to ‘I believe in God…” you cannot change the meaning of what pope Francis had been said that made media shocked. Actually I do believed even you are shocked to death on this, you are just denying. You know Mr. Priest, whether your pope is the greatest professor of the greatest university on earth, the truth remain the same. Whether he is the greatest man on earth alive, the truth is “the wicked shall not understand but the wise will”. We really do not care if your pope’s book is best selling, cause if not, you should  very worry. Bro. Eli need not to compile or write a book cause the BIBLE tell it all. He is preaching the Bible. How about your pope?

 

Mr. Priest, the more you degrade Bro. Eli, the more he is elevated by many. He maybe undergraduate or no degree in any university of men, but still the truth is – he has given wisdom to preach the word of God. And no preachers today have the guts to debunked your pope’s pronouncement. And no preachers today have the guts and the knowledge to preach the true gospel of Lord Jesus Christ worldwide. You know nothing about him but to malign and call him vicious names that only devil’s advocate can do. You are a shame to your congregation splendor1618, whoever you are, whatever you are. I am sorry to say this to you, but I will still say that you deserve God’s punishment when that day comes if you not change your heart.

Note: This is posted originally as comment in this blog.

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Bible Knowledge came from GOD not in University of Men

September 10, 2014

Is Men’s Education or University Diploma a Requirement in Preaching the Gospel?

This is my comment to splendor1618 whose blog is dated Aug. 30, 2014 catered by Splendor who keep on bragging their educational attainment as priest and CFD while the opponent according to this priest is spreading stupidity.
If we are going to ask the wise readers, the title alone on how it was delivered in their site can tell immediately who are the mal-educated and the culprit spreading stupidity in the internet and who is not.

Yes, yes, you answered it right! The winner is none other than Mr. Abe Arganiosa or Splendor1618. Whether this guy is a university graduate or what (who cares), his arrogance and foul mouthed behavior is stinking over the net.

Let get started.

The President of this country is a Roman Catholic, his cabinet members, senators and congressman down to barangay police, majority of them are members of Catholic Church. Aside from them, many professionals are also member of this Church. A statistic of 86% of the total population of the country belongs to this church according to asiasociety.org. So, to that huge numbers, it is not impossible that most of intelligent person in the country is under of the same church. But wait! Let us not jump our heart hastily into a conclusion that insinuation of splendor1618 is true. Let us make some investigation first before we conclude – and that is wise thinking.

The question we want to be answered first is this – Is Bro. Eli Soriano spreading stupidity about the Bible, about God, about Son or any topic that he discussed whether in his official blog or live streaming or in his any Bible Expositions? Or it is just the malicious intention of those people who want him down and stop in preaching the gospel?

Have you ever heard Bro. Eli preaching? Have you ever read his official blog? Have you ever heard him answering questions of believers and non-believers both here and abroad? If you did not, isn’t it wise not to believe to these people who only want his mouth to be shut up? The decision is always in our hand, but we must always decide rightfully and as much as possible Biblically.
Now, let us take a look on Kiko Daualac’s comment as if he knew Bro. Eli from head to foot the way he commented, he said “The philosophy of our priests were perfectly of lawyer type while eli soriano is of snake type full of gossip,deceit, just to impress his lured members”

Kiko is free to say his thought but he must know what he is saying is true or not cause if not the Bible will call him Liar. So for Kiko the philosophy of his priests were perfectly lawyer, on the other hand , is snake-type. Philosophy is a greek word with literary means ‘love of wisdom’ (Wikipedia); the study of ideas about knowledge, truth, the nature and meaning of life, etc.; pursuit of wisdom (Merriam-Webster). I wish Mr. Kiko be informed that Bro. Eli is not a philosopher per se, actually he did not even study in college, but what is amazing is he speak and write like a philosopher, like a doctor, like teacher of academy – the reason why his blog is awarded as Most Educational to Follow by Mashable.com sometime in 2009.

With this, I am hoping that Mr. Dualan have heard Bro. Eli before cause in the given meaning, the type of reasoning that Bro. Eli shows is suited to this. How about the priest Abe, do you think his reasoning and how he laid his arguments accord to what philosophy meant. I wonder what are gossips and deceits that Bro. Eli had said or done to its members and non-members? Proof please! I am thinking now that Mr. Kiko is just another  commenter of splendor blog that do not think twice before posting.

Next is the priest himself, Abe A. or splendor1618 discourteous comment. Please bear with us for all the caplocks letter (shouting) cause that the style of this priest. Let us start the shouting este reading. These are all his replies to certain commenter:

 

MARAMI KAMING LAWYERS KAYA NGA ANG MGA MAGAGALING NA LAWYERS AY GALING SA AMING MGA CATHOLIC SCHOOLS TULAD NG ATENEO, SAN BEDA, UST, LA SALLE AT IBA PA. SI MAMA ELI ANONG KLASENG EDUKASYON ANG BINIBIGAY? MGA KATANGAHAN. HA HA HA… PASADO BA SA PAGKA ABOGADO SI DANIEL RAZON? PAKI SAGOT.

SA CFD LANG AN DAMING ABOGADO. KAY MAMA ELI MGA ABOGAGO. HA HA HA… ISA SA PINAKAMAGALING NA EXPERT IN LAW AND JURISPRUDENCE NGAYON NG BANSA AY PARING CATOLICO, SI FR. JOAQUIN BERNAS, SJ. DEAN EMERITUS OF ATENEO LAW SCHOOL AT ISA SA MGA MAY AKDA NG 1986 PHILIPPINE CONSTITUTION.)

 

As written already in above statistic, 86% of the country’s populations are Catholics, so it is not surprising anymore for Abe’s bragging. So Mr. Abe, why need to ask if Bro. Daniel Razon passed bar exam, is it needed or you just want him to down? Is a university diploma a requirement of God to preach His word? Do we need a bar exam certification to defend the Doctrine of our Lord Jesus Christ from false preachers and its cohorts? Let the Bible remind us that Lord Jesus Christ chosen his apostles who are unworthy to the eyes of men.

And let the Bible again remind the mal-educated-priest Abe that Bro. Eli although did not get any diploma, his knowledge in the Scripture is unparalleled, that is why many covet what is in him that only God can give, not in any men universities.

Luke 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

Let us see how Mr. Abe try to down Bro. Eli’ reputation as we can read in below cause this is the only way he knew-attacking one’s reputation – his father has taught him maybe. The commenter said “ito sabi ng talata ng biblia tungkol sa philosophy ng pari mo…

Col 2:8 Kayo’y mag-ingat, baka sa inyo’y may bumihag sa pamamagitan ng pilosopiya at walang kabuluhang pandaraya, ayon sa tradisyon ng mga tao, ayon sa mga simulain ng sanlibutan, at hindi ayon kay Cristo. (Ang Bagong Biblia)

Abe’s reply in shouting words: TANGA, HINDI PARI ANG TINUTUKOY DIYAN. WALANG NAKASULAT NA PARI. ANG TINUTUKOY DIYAN AY ANG MGA MANGANGARAL NA PEKE DAHIL TALIWAS ANG TURO NILA SA TURO NG MGA PARI TULAD NI MAMA ELI SORIANO. HA HA HA ITO ANG TURO NG BIBLIA HINGGIL SA MGA PARI:

Malakias 2:7 [Magandang Balita 2005] “Tungkulin ng mga pari na ituro ang tunay na kaalaman tungkol sa Diyos. Sila ang dapat sangguniin ng mga tao tungkol sa aking kalooban, sapagkat sila ang mga sugo ni Yahweh na Makapangyarihan sa lahat.”

ANG MGA PARI ANG TUNAY NA SUGO NG DIOS AT SILA ANG MAY TUNGKULIN NA MAGTURO NG TUNAY NA KAALAMAN. SI MAMA ELI MO AY PEKENG SUGO DAHIL HINDI PARI KUNDI HUWAD NA MADRE. HA HA HA…

This priest is well-known in bad-mouthing to his commenter who did not approve what he is saying. He loves to use ‘tanga, bobo, and other sorts of word that a Christian should not use or refer to a person that is not truly he is. So who is again stinking? This priest was told to be polite in answering by his fellow Catholics but it seem he heard not that is why he do it again and again and again. The dictionary calls it – Idiot!

Okay, so what this priest is shouting about again – “it is not the priest that was mentioned in the verse (Col 2:8) because it was not there (it is not written) those are fake preachers whose doctrines are not conformed to priests just like (mama) Eli.” Have you heard it right? For Abe, a preacher is fake if his doctrine is not conforms to them (priests like him)?? Let’s see what are some doctrines of Roman Catholics: trinity, rosary, worshipping idols and their relics, purgatory, baptism of the infants, masses (in different kinds) and others.

Question, are these mentioned doctrines of Catholic Church in conformity with Bible or contradicting the Bible?

Where does the doctrines to be taught must come from, from the Bible (inspired by God) or from the priest?

Now, is your priests sent by God as you claimed? How about your pope, is he sent by God or someone who contradicts God?

Let us not forget that the basis of salvation is the Doctrine that came from God. Saint Paul warns us:

1Corinthians 4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

Gal_1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

And by the way, ‘Yahweh’ is not the name of our true God for your information. Now, who is spreading silliness yet have the galls to call names. What a bitter priest Mr. Abe is!

 

ANG COLOSAS 2:8 AY AKMANG-AKMA KAY MAMA ELI KASI MANGMANG NA NAGDUDUNUNG DUNUNGAN. KUNG HINDI BA NAMAN KAYO MGA SIRA ULONG MGA TAGA SUNOD NIA E UTOS NI MAMA ELI AY UMINOM KAYO NG IHI PARA DAW GUMALING SA MGA SAKIT. HA HA HA…. YAN ANG PILOSOPIANG TRADISYON NG TAO AT BUNGA NG KABALIWAN AT KABALINTUNAAN NG PAG-IISIP. HA HA HA… YUNG MGA NAG-AARAL SA MGA CATHOLIC SCHOOLS NAGIGING DOCTOR SA UST, LAWYERS SA ATENEO, MANAGEMENT EXPERTS SA LA SALLE, ENGINEERS SA ADAMSON AT MARAMI PANG IBA. PERO KAY MAMA ELI KATANGAHAN. HA HA HA

 

Mr. Abe, kindly read you comment again because we are not ordered by Bro. Eli to consume urine as you insist hastily. For your information, Bro. Eli is consulted by members not only things regarding salvation and religion, more often in consultation during break-time in Thanksgiving, he is asks regarding health issues with brethren-doctors assistance. Bro. Eli is quite a wide-reader, he shares what he knows that can be a help to members who inquired to him. So if Bro. Eli mentioning urine therapy is unusual to your polluted mind, it is you who had a problem and not us. And to all you had mentioned that graduated from those great schools, good for them, and we believe they are not like you.

 

[Sapul kayo diyan..karamihan sa pinaggagawa ng katoliko puro tradisyon at aral lang ng tao na walang kabuluhan..]

HA HA HA TANGA. HINDI KAMI SAPUL DIYAN. KAYO ANG SAPUL KASI ANG MGA TURO NI MAMA ELI AY MGA KATANGAHAN AT KABALIWAN. ANG AMING MGA ARAL AT TURO AY BIBLICAL, APOSTOLIC AND SCIENTIFIC. HA HA HA… ANG AMING MGA ARAL AY ARAL NG BAYAN NG DIOS SA PAMUMUNO NG MGA PARI.

MARCOS 7:7
At walang kabuluhan ang pagsamba nila sa akin, na itinuturo bilang aral ang mga utos ng mga tao! ‘

YAN ANG PAGSAMBA NIO NA TURO NI MAMA ELI. PAGANO. NAKATUWAD KAYO SA HARAP NG ARAW. AT SINASAMBA NIO ANG NAGSASALITANG LARAWAN NG HALIMAW NA SI MAMA ELI THROUGH VIDEO RECORDINGS. HA HA HA… MGA KAMPON NI SATANAS. HA HA HA….

[piyesta ng patay, piyesta ng mga santo, kumpil, padasal, rosario, 40 days,pasiyam..yan ba yung perfect type na sinasabi niyo…??tsk tsk..]
HA HA HA… KITAM, NAPAKA-TANGA MO. HINDI MO BA ALAM NA ANG PISTA, MGA SANTO, KUMPIL, PADASAL AT ROSARIO, 4O DAYS, AT IBA PA AY NASA BIBLIA? HA HA HA TANGA KA TALAGA. YAN ANG EPEKTO SA IYO NI MAMA ELI: KABOBOHAN. HA HA HA

 

See how pathetic this priest is in answering comments that oppose to his belief. Truth really hurts indeed. You can accept truth or denied it, but Mr. Abe choose the latter with reversing tactics and malicious attacks to his opponent. So again, who is spreading stupidity? And by the way, before we end this, I would like to ask the priest what passages in the Bible we can found such traditions he mentioned like feast of patron (pista), praying for the dead (padasal), rosary, 40 days, etc is commanded to Christians?

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Bro. Eli refuted Pope’s pronouncement – Jesus is not a spirit, he is a man.

September 9, 2014

This post is my comment to Aquino Bayani of  Splendor in his blog dated Aug. 30, 2014:

 

Before we rebuke by relaying to Bro. Eli  Soriano’s  blog,  the unwise interpretation of this Aquino Bayani (Mr.B)  in his blog catered by Splendor, let us be aware first of Saint Paul’s reminder, saying:

 

1Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

 

We all know that the Bible is open to all, everybody can read and use it as long he had the copy of it, but to understand it, that is a different story. And that is the problem of  Mr. Bayani who is trying to defend the unbiblical pronouncement of his pope by copy-pasting too many verses in the Bible, which was refuted by Bro. Eli Soriano, a well-known tele-evangelist and the presiding minister of Members Church of God International, in his official blog, entitled “The Greatest Fallacy of the Roman Catholic Church Ever”.

 
Since the pope had not made yet any rebuttal or explanation on what he said, the catholic defenders came to rescue! One of them is Mr. Bayani. By showing the original 124 seconds video of pope’s homily, MR. B  assumed victory against Bro. Eli – but mistakenly (maybe unknown to him), he just dropped the smallest hope that he can defend his pope, cause the video is actually saying that Jesus is a man, not a spirit, even he is gone.

 
So loud and clear! The pope believes that Jesus is a man even he is gone on earth. At present moment, whom he (Jesus) is already in heaven with the Father God, he is a man and not a spirit! And he still prays for us. Am I hearing it right? Jesus still prays for us? Anyway it’s another rebuttal to discuss. But for the meantime lets be focused on pope’s pronouncement that Jesus is a man, and not a spirit.

 
So since Mr. Bayani cannot change anymore the video, he just ride on the pope’s pronouncement and believe as well that Jesus is a man and not a spirit by mis-using the Bible verses to prove their claims that pope’s pronouncement is true and Biblical. Let dissect with God’s help the hallucination of Mr. Bayani one by one:

 
1. Jesus Christ becomes a human being forever

 
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (Jn 4:24, KJV)

 
Before anything else existed, there was Christ, with God. He has always been alive and is himself God. (Jn 1:1-2, The Living Bible)

 
But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, (Gal 4:4, KJV)

 
And Christ became a human being and lived here on earth among us and was full of loving forgiveness and truth. And some of us have seen his glory—the glory of the only Son of the heavenly Father! (Jn 1:14, TLB)

 
It is quite true that the way to live a godly life is not an easy matter. But the answer lies in Christ, who came to earth as a man, was proved spotless and pure in his Spirit, was served by angels, was preached among the nations, was accepted by men everywhere, and was received up again to his glory in heaven. (1 Tm 3:16, TLB)

 
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (! Tm 3:16, KJV)

 
Above are the verses posted by Mr. B  to start his claim, the verses AS IS has no problem but using them to serve the claim of Mr. B  is quite alarming and very dangerous to readers and listeners, his fallacy is this:

“At the moment when Christ who is God and Spirit becomes a human being, He remains God and Spirit who becomes a human being forever.”

 
We can see clearly how Mr. B distorted the truth in injecting his own understanding about Christ – who becomes a human being forever according to him. None in the Bible we can read that Christ became human being FOREVER! Even we read the verses million times, none of them validate Mr. B’s  claims. Take note how his mind is polluted by his own falsity.

 
More so, this verse alone that he used as well is debunking his own. I think he is unaware again that he is drinking his own-made poison.

 
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever..(Hebrew 13:8 KJV)”

 
The Bible is so plain to understand to those with simple mind that God, a spirit, is infinite but human being is finite.

 
But not to Mr. Bayani. This is what he said – “If Christ came to earth as a man (and not a spirit), then Christ is to remain a man forever (and not a spirit forever), as it was also written in the Hebraic Law that Christ is to remain forever as both Christ and the Son of Man (that is, a human being):”

 
Is not the spirit of Christ inside the body (man)? How come Mr. B deducted the fact that Christ is a spirit being that manifested in flesh? And if Christ became flesh it does not mean He will remain flesh forever. That is so ridiculous and this pretender aka Mr. B is INSANE! Come to think what will happen if the flesh remains forever? In the first place it is impossible. St. Paul said clearly that flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

 
Lord Jesus Christ became man (flesh) only on his stay on earth, but after that he passed away. He was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. Take note of this verse:

 
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 
We all believe that the Spirit of Christ descended to earth and manifested in flesh, the same Spirit will then be ascended up to heaven. So what will remain forever is the Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ. Let us read Mathew 28:18-20,

 
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

 
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 
It is the Lord who said that He will go with the person that teaches all his commandments until the end of the world. He will not go to Liars who distorted His words and use for their own gain.

 

 

2. TRINITY – One God, three persona

 
On the same claim “At the moment when Christ who is God and Spirit becomes a human being, He remains God and Spirit who becomes a human being forever” it is noticeable that Mr. B misunderstood the verses he used, and he presumed that God the Father, Christ the Son and Holy Spirit is one. This is to serve catholic doctrine about trinity. They believed that the three is EQUAL. This doctrine is refuted by Bro. Eli Soriano more often not only in his official blog, also to his Bible Expositions. He cited the following verses on the Bible to debunk this fallacy:

 
Father God is Greater than the Son

 
Jonh_14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

 

Baptism of Jesus at Jordan River

 

 

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

 
Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

 

 

Transfiguration of Jesus in the mountain

 
Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

 
Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

 
Mar 9:7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

 

 

We can understand on above verses that Jesus Christ, although come in the bosom of the Father is not the same as the Father nor the Holy Spirit. God the Father even send the Holy Spirit to the apostles.

 

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

 

3. Jesus Christ is not a spirit but is a man after his death and resurrection.

 

Let be all discern the pope’s homily again as seen in video, he said:

 
“He is the intercessor, the One who prays and prays to God with us and before us. Jesus has saved us, He gave us this great prayer, His sacrifice, His life, to save us, to justify us: we are righteous through Him. Now He’s gone, but He still prays. Some ask, is Jesus is a spirit? Jesus is not a spirit! Jesus is a person, a man, with flesh like ours, but full of glory. Jesus has the wounds on His hands, feet, sides, and when He prays to the Father He shows the price of justification, praying for us, as if to say: But, Father, let this not be lost!”

 

 
When some ask “if Jesus is a spirit”, the pope already uttered that Jesus was gone already, he sacrificed his life already and died on cross already. As of that moment that Jesus is gone, is He a spirit or a man? It is the time that makes the pope’s pronouncement deadly wrong and un-Biblical. If only the pope said that Jesus is manifested in man flesh when he was on earth, that’s was true, but never in the Bible that Jesus is a man before and after his death and resurrection. In Bro. Eli’s blog he said that before Jesus come to earth, flesh and bone was prepared already.

 

 

HEBREWS 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

 

 

And after Jesus death and resurrection, Bro. Eli said that even the real authorities of Christian faith- the Apostles, believe that Jesus is a spirit. The last Adam is Lord Jesus Christ as the Bible says.

 

 

I CORINTHIANS 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

 

 

Let us all be reminded that a glorious body is not the same as body of a human that we all know. Bro. Eli noted the difference:

 
I CORINTHIANS 15:40
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

 
The one that Mr. B pointing in Luke 24:33-43 is not the human body that we all know but the body destined to heaven (celestial body). If that so (human body) why did not knew him while Jesus walk with them. They only knew that it was Jesus when he ate bread with them (Luke 24:30-31). The same with others in the room when Jesus stood in their midst, they were frightened and terrified as if they saw as spirit, if it was Jesus in human form as we know, are they be terrified? Jesus entered while the door is still shut – yey that’s unusual for a human body. If a terrestrial body can eat a material food like bread and fish, is that mean a celestial body cannot? Is not the celestial body is more capable of than human body? The bottom point of this is that Lord Jesus is not forever man after his death and resurrection. He is a spirit with destined body in heaven.

 
CONCLUSION

 

Again, as St. Paul’s reminder to us:
1Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

 

Can we found someone who uses the law in good faith?

 

Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

 

 

No preachers nowadays other than Bro. Eli Soriano who have the wisdom to speak the truth written in the Bible despite of deadly threats on him, despite of lies thrown to him, despite of fabricated cases filed in court of men, despite of malicious attacks read in all sort of media, despite of these all that hinder him to speak the truth – he still stand firm with the help of God and His guidance, and His promise that He will GO to whom he sent to preach the gospel/the commandments he commanded to teach to all. And none can resist what he says.

 

 

The enemies of the Truth are sprouting increasingly but none of them will succeed, cause the Spirit of Lord Jesus Christ is with him that faithfully keep and teach his commandments.

 

 

To Mr. Aquino Bayani, I think you need to rest your mind for a while so that fresh air came inward.

 

 

And to readers specially to catholic members, we will not warn you to keep away to your pope cause you have right to believe and to listen, but we want to warn you to be more watchful on his doctrines. Read the Bible and compare. And do your soul a favor, listen to Bro. Eli Soriano and compare the doctrines he preaches to yours.