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A call for debate by Lackey: Speak Greek/ Hebrew Language Or You are Nothing? Sounds familiar.

September 10, 2014

I would like to post my comment on splendors blog dated 8/26/2014:

1. First is the challenge of Bro. Duane to Eli Soriano or Any member of ADD who are willing to appear in a neutral place for a gentleman Debate.

 

It is all said. Sensible indeed! By reading the link below (or this blog), for wise readers, we understand why Duane’s demand is HOPELESS.

 

http://kotawinters.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/bro-eli-pope-francis-and-the-squid-tactics-of-roman-catholic-lackeys/

 

But hey, I have an idea for Mr. Duane if he is sincere to open the eyes of people. Since Mr. Duane is hastily requesting a gentleman debate with Bro. Eli but cannot get an authority from his pope or higher superior:

 

WHY NOT MAKE VIDEO OR BLOG MR. DUANE?

 

Mr. Duane, if you really wanted to prove your brothers and sisters in faith and in the world that you are good in Hebrew and in Greek and that of recommendation of Bro. Eli is wrong, why not make a video or a blog proving yourself and of Bro. Eli is wrong in saying that the best English translation (truthful to original language) of the Bible is New Living Testament and Modern King James Version? Does not knowing the truth (if it’s a real truth) gave you an obligation to inform everyone that you think is misled by Bro. Eli since he made such recommendation? Why not tell us what version is the best English translation and truthful? And tell us why do you say so?

 

Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

 

I am hoping that your listeners and/or readers will understand what you are talking about and will sure get piece of good advice for their soul’s salvation. Peace!

 

2. Second is the response of Bro. Duane to Eli Soriano against the statement of Pope Francis.

 

I though Mr. Duane will wronged Bro. Eli, but what he did is he backed-up Bro. Eli in refuting pope’s pronouncement “Jesus is a man” when Duane show us this “Person of Jesus, who is true man and true God.”
Links:http://www.apologete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Jesus-is-GOD-and-Man12.jpg

 

Duane analyzed the video to prove his point – to prove his pope’s point – that Jesus is a man, not a spirit. In the video:

 

Pope’ said: He is the intercessor, the One who prays, pray to God with us and before us. Jesus has saved us, He gave us this great prayer, His sacrifices, His life to save us, to justify us: we are righteous through Him. Now he’s gone, but He still prays. Some ask, Is Jesus a spirit? Jesus is not a spirit! Jesus is a person, a man, with flesh like ours, but full of glory. Jesus has the wounds on His hands, feet, sides, and when He prays to the Father He shows the price of justification, praying for us, as if to say: Father, let this not be lost! (Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNlEsbkHn_Y)

 

Thank you Duane for showing this video to us, so loud and clear! Your pope is indeed telling that Jesus is a man, with flesh like ours. Jesus is a man even he is gone. His homily is about the humanity of Jesus even he is gone. NO WONDER, Bro. Eli will not keep quiet on this kind of pronouncement. It contradicts the Bible! Poor Duane, he just gave Bro. Eli’s blog a lift instead of refuting it.

 

Duane wrote: When Pope Francis was saying “Jesus is not a spirit”, he is actually being faithful to the teaching of the bible.

 

Oh my, this man is lost! The pronouncement is unbiblical and yet still faithful to the teaching of the Bible? Mr. Duane, you are grossly blinded!

 

Duane wrote: If you believe that Jesus is a spirit, you are actually saying that Jesus does not have a flesh. BUT HE DOES. And if you go back and read what the Pope was saying in his homily, you will find out that he was actually talking about the essential value of the flesh of Jesus for our redemption. Jesus came in this world in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16).

 

Now you are assuming wrongfully Mr. Duane. Your thinking is not the same as ours. We believe that Jesus is a spirit and not a man. He manifested in flesh. And as of this moment he is not in flesh anymore as your pope’s homily and your own conclusion.

 

Duane wrote: Remember that when Jesus roused from the dead he was not a spirit or a ghost he had an actual body.

 

The Pope said, Jesus is a person, a man, withflesh (body) like ours but full of glory. Isn’t this what glorious body actually mean?

 

So to Mr. Duane, an actual body = glorious body = flesh = man = not a spirit. How could be it glorious if you still have arthritis and all sort of illnesses since you are still in flesh (can feel pain/sorrows/etc)? It absurd and it is not glorious either.

 

Duane wrote: This interpretation is far from relevant in the topic if we use much clearer translations from Biblegateway.com 16 So then, from this point on we won’t recognize people by human standards. Even though we used to know Christ by human standards, that isn’t how we know him now. (CEB) 16 So from now on, we do not look at anyone from a worldly viewpoint. Even if we once regarded the Messiah from a worldly viewpoint, we do so no longer.(CJB) 16 From now on, therefore, we regard no one according to the flesh.Even though we once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer. (ESV) Are you still shock? The Pope maybe just too deep for some non-Catholics, so that he is misunderstood.

 

DEEP? Is that deep already? You just use other translation and for you is it deep? Your pope homily is not deep nor shallow, it is MISLEADING! And he misunderstood the Bible and the followers as well.

 

Duane wrote: Or some non-Catholics are too shallow that they cannot understand a basic Catholic homily.

 

WE understand so much that is why we LEAVE your church. It is false.

 

Duane wrote: Just an afterthought, have you seen the faces of those who were watching the video, none of them appeared to be shock at all. It was basic catholic catechism. They understood exactly that there was nothing new in what the Pope was saying.

 

Actually Duane, they are not watching the video, they were present at that homily, you blind! Yes they understood exactly that there was nothing new, cause from the very beginning of your church you propagated false doctrines, whatever comes now is also false. That is basic logic.

 

Luk_6:43 For a good tree bringeth not forth corrupt fruit; neither doth a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

 

Let the Pope speak for himself, nice try Duane.

 

3. Third is the response of Bro. Duane to attacks of Eli Soriano against the Catholic Church.

 

Ahahahha..LOL! Duane, what are you doing? Who understand you by writing all of this stuff? You are speaking in the AIR man!

 

1Co 14:9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

 

Try to refute Bro. Eli by posting Hebrew words? WHY NOT EXPLAIN so everybody will understand? But if you cannot refute by explaining your point in common language, the Bible has something to say to you, Mr. Duane:

 

1Co 14:28 But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God.

 

Whatever translations you use, your Church is idolaters! You cannot change the fact that you worship graven images.

 

You know, the more you boast yourself as superb in Hebrew language the more you look fool to wise readers.

 

If I were you, I will follow the Bible’s advice. KEEP SILENT!

 

Note: This post is originally posted as comment to this blog.

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