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The Catholic priest is trembling too!

September 10, 2014

The other person that trembling so much in pain and shame as far as the post is concerned dated August 14, 2014 in their ‘splendor blog’ claiming that it was a response to Sis. Jane Abao’s “Bro. Eli, Pope Francis and the Squid Tactics of Roman Catholic Lackeys” is none other than the priest, Mr. Abe A.

 

He is trembling so much and no other way to counter Bro. Eli’s arguments regarding pope’s pronouncement but to post his old-style, malicious and un-respectful style of blogging against the person of Bro. Eli and now Sis Jane Abao. How poor this priest is, scarce in wisdom but full of sarcasm!

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli is hiding because of the rape case —-

 

I said: If Bro. Eli is hiding, why people see him worldwide in 1000+ satellites, heard him in television and radio, watch him in live-streaming in internet? A simple logic yet the poor priest cannot comprehend. And for your information priest abe, as if you did not know the reason why Bro. Eli went abroad, he was sent by God to preach the true gospel worldwide. It seems you really love to talk about the rape case fabricated by INC, have not you Mr. Priest? And in your dirty mind, Bro. Eli is guilty already. For your information, the Bible said ‘the wicked shall not understand…’ and so why Bro. Eli understands the Bible? If you do not believe about that prophecy it is your lost not ours.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli’s followers are blind—-

 

I said: I am myself is spiritually blind when I was in the Catholic Church, but when I heard the preaching of Bro. Eli, I knew it is God who preaches. To cut the story short, I was blind before but now I can see. Many members of MCGI were catholic before: drunkard, killers, drug-addict, gossiper, womanizer, money-lover, self-centered, idolaters, etc. – but now after hearing Bro. Eli’s preaching – they are godly and faithfully serving the true God of the Bible.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that sis Jane Abao is shallow –

 

I said: That’s why you joined forces to malign Sis Jane because of her shallowness? Who will believe you priest? If there is one stupid and all malicious names you had called to Sis Jane and Bro. Eli, it was you splendor1618 aka Abe. A, you are stupid because you listen to devil, only devil have the guts to do the things you have done in your site, it’s the devil who hate people doing good and it’s the devil that create false doctrines, he is a LIAR. And you are following the likes of the devil. Am I wrong in thinking you are son of him? You still have time to think priest.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli claimed he is a great debater —

 

I said: If you have evidence that Bro. Eli claimed that he is a great debater, show It! If you cannot – you are indeed a great liar spendor1618, you put your lies to Bro. Eli’s mouth, shame on you.

 

Bro. Eli, is indeed a great debater but he never claims he is. He knows where to stand. The footages of his debate with other sects and claimed-Christian denominations are proof that none can beat him Biblically speaking. Bro. Eli has the guts, the style, the knowledge and wisdom to be a great debater of this time. Just get a permit to your pope poor-priest and bring your balls in the debate, if you have balls to carry.

 

The poor and wisdom-less priest said that Bro. Eli can answer all questions thrown at him —

 

I said: I do believe Bro. Eli said these lines instead, that he can answer all the questions thrown at him regarding religion and salvation the Bible have an answers. Anyway all questions thrown by the visitors in Bible Exposition as far as I know were all answered by Bro. Eli, even those not related to religion and salvation, and most of the visitors who asked questions were catholics. They are asking because the priest cannot respond Biblically. They are seeking for the best advice – advice from the Bible – word of God.

 

The accusation of this priest against Bro. Eli is baseless and hopeless. This priest is righteous in his own understanding. This priest is too jealous of something that wicked cannot have. This priest cannot accept the fact that the preaching of Bro. Eli is spreading worldwide and MCGI is growing everyday.

 

Wake-up Mr. Abe for your soul’s sake!

 

 

“Obey your conscience. That is your guide to what is right and what is wrong.”

 

Hopeless to defend the pope by priest Abe in his pronouncement, the priest had to coat the claim that the Italian journalist has no proof or evidence (video or recorder) that testified the truthfulness of the said pronouncement.

From the blog:
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The Pope’s letter to Scalfari that Vatican calls “non-believer,” said –
I now wish to address the three questions from your article of 7 August. I believe that in the first two questions, what interests you is to understand the attitude of the Church towards those who do not share faith in Jesus. Above all, you ask if the God of Christians forgives those who do not believe and who do not seek faith. Given the premise, and this is fundamental, that the mercy of God is limitless for those who turn to him with a sincere and contrite heart, the issue for the unbeliever lies in obeying his or her conscience. There is sin, even for those who have no faith, when conscience is not followed. Listening to and obeying conscience means deciding in the face of what is understood to be good or evil. It is on the basis of this choice that the goodness or evil of our actions is determined. http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/letters/2013/documents/papa-francesco_20130911_eugenio-scalfari.html
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The priest cannot escape on this statements, he is just misleading the readers by calling Bro. Eli and Sis Jane of all sort of names that pointed on him. But the truth is, the pope really said that. And he opened the rape case again, he really like rape cases didn’t he?

 

Everyone has the right for his own opinion, why not Bro. Eli on his Biblical opinion. Do not forget your pope is a public figure, a leader – a spiritual leader for many Catholics. What an escape when you said that it is useless for the pope to explain using the Bible if he speaking to non-believer? Are you saying that quoting the Bible is useless if you speak to non-believers? Is the Bible made only to believers? Are not the ultimate goodness and pure conscious are found in the Bible, where GOD’s words are written? Or your pope cannot rely on the Bible for he do not know how to engage if he speaks to non-believers?

 

You know Mr. Splendor, it is UNETHICAL to anyone to call a man an idiot if he know nothing about him. It is UNETHICAL and UN-BIBLICAL to anyone to give high regard to a fool but is not and vise versa. And if you do not want to be contested by anyone, do not speak something that is contestable. In the beginning of your blog you are implying that Scalfari is a liar being an atheist and later on you are telling he is an intellectual heavyweight like your pope. Is this mean, a liar is also an intellectual heavyweight? Just asking.

 

Hey Priest, Bro. Eli need not to pretend he is knowledgeable –cause his knowledge is illuminating in every corner of this earth. He need not to write Scalfari for an interview or whatsoever in your mind because he is so busy preaching worldwide. If Scalfari need to know about Bro. Eli, about religion and faith, he can just turn on his media devices and presto he can hear Bro. Eli, he can ask questions about faith, religion, etc. Whatever Scalfari’s doubt, no-doubt that it will be answered by Bro.Eli. And I know you know that as well, you are just denying the fact.

 

In a world of lies, truth are not welcome, they maybe expose sooner, and that will be the end of line. This priest unwanted the truth to be heard, cause he is living in the world of lies where he is one of the propagator. The Biblical opinion of Bro. Eli is very unwelcome to these people who do not want to see anymore. Sorry Mr, Priest, you cannot stop Bro. Eli in doing so, because he is after the soul of many people blinded for so long, for his mission is to open their eyes.

 

The priest said, there is no fallacy in their doctrines —- maybe in their dream. Well if we talk about the fallacy of Roman Catholic Church, they were numerous. Since this priest claimed that RCC developed its education, science, arts, music and literature that make them champion in logical reasoning, analytic studies and deductive analysis – no doubt why their doctrine is not of God but of men. Cause the truth where  logical thinking and reasoning must be based shall comes from the east. The sun shines in the east and not in the west. Christians comes from east not in Rome.

 

“He believes in God but not in the Catholic god.”

 

Whether it is Catholic God or Catholic god, the pope believes not.
I do not know why the priest is so damned to understand this. Why in the world Pope Francis said that if there is no comparison at all. Come on Mr. Priest, your pope is comparing two things here, the God and the Catholic God. Whether your creed started to ‘I believe in God…” you cannot change the meaning of what pope Francis had been said that made media shocked. Actually I do believed even you are shocked to death on this, you are just denying. You know Mr. Priest, whether your pope is the greatest professor of the greatest university on earth, the truth remain the same. Whether he is the greatest man on earth alive, the truth is “the wicked shall not understand but the wise will”. We really do not care if your pope’s book is best selling, cause if not, you should  very worry. Bro. Eli need not to compile or write a book cause the BIBLE tell it all. He is preaching the Bible. How about your pope?

 

Mr. Priest, the more you degrade Bro. Eli, the more he is elevated by many. He maybe undergraduate or no degree in any university of men, but still the truth is – he has given wisdom to preach the word of God. And no preachers today have the guts to debunked your pope’s pronouncement. And no preachers today have the guts and the knowledge to preach the true gospel of Lord Jesus Christ worldwide. You know nothing about him but to malign and call him vicious names that only devil’s advocate can do. You are a shame to your congregation splendor1618, whoever you are, whatever you are. I am sorry to say this to you, but I will still say that you deserve God’s punishment when that day comes if you not change your heart.

Note: This is posted originally as comment in this blog.

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Bro. Eli refuted Pope’s pronouncement – Jesus is not a spirit, he is a man.

September 9, 2014

This post is my comment to Aquino Bayani of  Splendor in his blog dated Aug. 30, 2014:

 

Before we rebuke by relaying to Bro. Eli  Soriano’s  blog,  the unwise interpretation of this Aquino Bayani (Mr.B)  in his blog catered by Splendor, let us be aware first of Saint Paul’s reminder, saying:

 

1Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

 

We all know that the Bible is open to all, everybody can read and use it as long he had the copy of it, but to understand it, that is a different story. And that is the problem of  Mr. Bayani who is trying to defend the unbiblical pronouncement of his pope by copy-pasting too many verses in the Bible, which was refuted by Bro. Eli Soriano, a well-known tele-evangelist and the presiding minister of Members Church of God International, in his official blog, entitled “The Greatest Fallacy of the Roman Catholic Church Ever”.

 
Since the pope had not made yet any rebuttal or explanation on what he said, the catholic defenders came to rescue! One of them is Mr. Bayani. By showing the original 124 seconds video of pope’s homily, MR. B  assumed victory against Bro. Eli – but mistakenly (maybe unknown to him), he just dropped the smallest hope that he can defend his pope, cause the video is actually saying that Jesus is a man, not a spirit, even he is gone.

 
So loud and clear! The pope believes that Jesus is a man even he is gone on earth. At present moment, whom he (Jesus) is already in heaven with the Father God, he is a man and not a spirit! And he still prays for us. Am I hearing it right? Jesus still prays for us? Anyway it’s another rebuttal to discuss. But for the meantime lets be focused on pope’s pronouncement that Jesus is a man, and not a spirit.

 
So since Mr. Bayani cannot change anymore the video, he just ride on the pope’s pronouncement and believe as well that Jesus is a man and not a spirit by mis-using the Bible verses to prove their claims that pope’s pronouncement is true and Biblical. Let dissect with God’s help the hallucination of Mr. Bayani one by one:

 
1. Jesus Christ becomes a human being forever

 
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (Jn 4:24, KJV)

 
Before anything else existed, there was Christ, with God. He has always been alive and is himself God. (Jn 1:1-2, The Living Bible)

 
But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, (Gal 4:4, KJV)

 
And Christ became a human being and lived here on earth among us and was full of loving forgiveness and truth. And some of us have seen his glory—the glory of the only Son of the heavenly Father! (Jn 1:14, TLB)

 
It is quite true that the way to live a godly life is not an easy matter. But the answer lies in Christ, who came to earth as a man, was proved spotless and pure in his Spirit, was served by angels, was preached among the nations, was accepted by men everywhere, and was received up again to his glory in heaven. (1 Tm 3:16, TLB)

 
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (! Tm 3:16, KJV)

 
Above are the verses posted by Mr. B  to start his claim, the verses AS IS has no problem but using them to serve the claim of Mr. B  is quite alarming and very dangerous to readers and listeners, his fallacy is this:

“At the moment when Christ who is God and Spirit becomes a human being, He remains God and Spirit who becomes a human being forever.”

 
We can see clearly how Mr. B distorted the truth in injecting his own understanding about Christ – who becomes a human being forever according to him. None in the Bible we can read that Christ became human being FOREVER! Even we read the verses million times, none of them validate Mr. B’s  claims. Take note how his mind is polluted by his own falsity.

 
More so, this verse alone that he used as well is debunking his own. I think he is unaware again that he is drinking his own-made poison.

 
“Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever..(Hebrew 13:8 KJV)”

 
The Bible is so plain to understand to those with simple mind that God, a spirit, is infinite but human being is finite.

 
But not to Mr. Bayani. This is what he said – “If Christ came to earth as a man (and not a spirit), then Christ is to remain a man forever (and not a spirit forever), as it was also written in the Hebraic Law that Christ is to remain forever as both Christ and the Son of Man (that is, a human being):”

 
Is not the spirit of Christ inside the body (man)? How come Mr. B deducted the fact that Christ is a spirit being that manifested in flesh? And if Christ became flesh it does not mean He will remain flesh forever. That is so ridiculous and this pretender aka Mr. B is INSANE! Come to think what will happen if the flesh remains forever? In the first place it is impossible. St. Paul said clearly that flesh and blood will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

 
Lord Jesus Christ became man (flesh) only on his stay on earth, but after that he passed away. He was resurrected and then ascended to heaven. Take note of this verse:

 
Eph 4:10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)

 
We all believe that the Spirit of Christ descended to earth and manifested in flesh, the same Spirit will then be ascended up to heaven. So what will remain forever is the Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ. Let us read Mathew 28:18-20,

 
Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

 
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

 

Mat 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

 
It is the Lord who said that He will go with the person that teaches all his commandments until the end of the world. He will not go to Liars who distorted His words and use for their own gain.

 

 

2. TRINITY – One God, three persona

 
On the same claim “At the moment when Christ who is God and Spirit becomes a human being, He remains God and Spirit who becomes a human being forever” it is noticeable that Mr. B misunderstood the verses he used, and he presumed that God the Father, Christ the Son and Holy Spirit is one. This is to serve catholic doctrine about trinity. They believed that the three is EQUAL. This doctrine is refuted by Bro. Eli Soriano more often not only in his official blog, also to his Bible Expositions. He cited the following verses on the Bible to debunk this fallacy:

 
Father God is Greater than the Son

 
Jonh_14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

 

 

Baptism of Jesus at Jordan River

 

 

Joh 1:32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

 
Joh 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

 

 

Transfiguration of Jesus in the mountain

 
Mar 9:3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

 
Mar 9:4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

 
Mar 9:7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

 

 

We can understand on above verses that Jesus Christ, although come in the bosom of the Father is not the same as the Father nor the Holy Spirit. God the Father even send the Holy Spirit to the apostles.

 

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

 

3. Jesus Christ is not a spirit but is a man after his death and resurrection.

 

Let be all discern the pope’s homily again as seen in video, he said:

 
“He is the intercessor, the One who prays and prays to God with us and before us. Jesus has saved us, He gave us this great prayer, His sacrifice, His life, to save us, to justify us: we are righteous through Him. Now He’s gone, but He still prays. Some ask, is Jesus is a spirit? Jesus is not a spirit! Jesus is a person, a man, with flesh like ours, but full of glory. Jesus has the wounds on His hands, feet, sides, and when He prays to the Father He shows the price of justification, praying for us, as if to say: But, Father, let this not be lost!”

 

 
When some ask “if Jesus is a spirit”, the pope already uttered that Jesus was gone already, he sacrificed his life already and died on cross already. As of that moment that Jesus is gone, is He a spirit or a man? It is the time that makes the pope’s pronouncement deadly wrong and un-Biblical. If only the pope said that Jesus is manifested in man flesh when he was on earth, that’s was true, but never in the Bible that Jesus is a man before and after his death and resurrection. In Bro. Eli’s blog he said that before Jesus come to earth, flesh and bone was prepared already.

 

 

HEBREWS 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

 

 

And after Jesus death and resurrection, Bro. Eli said that even the real authorities of Christian faith- the Apostles, believe that Jesus is a spirit. The last Adam is Lord Jesus Christ as the Bible says.

 

 

I CORINTHIANS 15:45
And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

 

 

Let us all be reminded that a glorious body is not the same as body of a human that we all know. Bro. Eli noted the difference:

 
I CORINTHIANS 15:40
There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.

 
The one that Mr. B pointing in Luke 24:33-43 is not the human body that we all know but the body destined to heaven (celestial body). If that so (human body) why did not knew him while Jesus walk with them. They only knew that it was Jesus when he ate bread with them (Luke 24:30-31). The same with others in the room when Jesus stood in their midst, they were frightened and terrified as if they saw as spirit, if it was Jesus in human form as we know, are they be terrified? Jesus entered while the door is still shut – yey that’s unusual for a human body. If a terrestrial body can eat a material food like bread and fish, is that mean a celestial body cannot? Is not the celestial body is more capable of than human body? The bottom point of this is that Lord Jesus is not forever man after his death and resurrection. He is a spirit with destined body in heaven.

 
CONCLUSION

 

Again, as St. Paul’s reminder to us:
1Timothy 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

 

Can we found someone who uses the law in good faith?

 

Luk 21:15 For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

 

 

No preachers nowadays other than Bro. Eli Soriano who have the wisdom to speak the truth written in the Bible despite of deadly threats on him, despite of lies thrown to him, despite of fabricated cases filed in court of men, despite of malicious attacks read in all sort of media, despite of these all that hinder him to speak the truth – he still stand firm with the help of God and His guidance, and His promise that He will GO to whom he sent to preach the gospel/the commandments he commanded to teach to all. And none can resist what he says.

 

 

The enemies of the Truth are sprouting increasingly but none of them will succeed, cause the Spirit of Lord Jesus Christ is with him that faithfully keep and teach his commandments.

 

 

To Mr. Aquino Bayani, I think you need to rest your mind for a while so that fresh air came inward.

 

 

And to readers specially to catholic members, we will not warn you to keep away to your pope cause you have right to believe and to listen, but we want to warn you to be more watchful on his doctrines. Read the Bible and compare. And do your soul a favor, listen to Bro. Eli Soriano and compare the doctrines he preaches to yours.